Anti-Obama Book Is Too Crazy For Cliff Kincaid Topic: Accuracy in Media
When noted crazy person Cliff Kincaid says something is too crazy even for him, that's worth noting.
In a Nov. 18 Accuracy in Media column, Kincaid takes apart Mondo Frazier's book "The Secret Life of Barack Hussein Obama," noting the author's dubious background and his reliance on conspiratorial muckraker Wayne Madsen, whom Kincaid calls a "propagandist for Russian TV who has been making the rounds alleging that Obama may be a secret CIA operative." Kincaid adds that "Such fanciful and easily discounted claims have the effect of diverting attention away from Obama’s communist and socialist connections, which is where the scrutiny should be applied."
And that, ultimately, is what Kincaid doesn't like about Frazier and his book, that he doesn't hate commies as much as Kincaid does, and that he ignores the real conspiracy of the staged financial collapse in 2008:
For whatever reason, the Frazier book diverts attention from the real story, which is—and has been—Obama’s ties to Communist Party operative Frank Marshall Davis, his childhood mentor in Hawaii, and the communist and socialist networks in Hawaii and Chicago which nurtured and sponsored Obama’s political career. These are the networks which have spawned the “Occupy” movement embraced by Obama. It is a movement that continues to get more violent over time but which ignores the role of Obama financial patron George Soros in the ongoing financial turmoil.
What’s more, how could a candidate with links to communists and terrorists like Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn get to be president? One answer is that we have a loophole in our system that has been exploited by our media to allow a security risk to occupy the oval office. The major media abandoned their adversarial and independent posture and became cheerleaders for the Obama phenomenon. One part of the process was refusing to probe why a financial collapse was engineered just weeks before the 2008 presidential election.
So, actually, Kincaid's main point isn't that Frazier is crazier than he is, but that he doesn't share Kincaid's anti-communist obsession.
AIM Lets Cliff Kincaid Out of the Attic Topic: Accuracy in Media
Since Accuracy in Media created the Center for Investigative Journalism last year and named Cliff Kincaid to run it, Kincaid has largely been absent from AIM's regular website, popping up for the occasionalright-wingrant.
AIM seems to have let him out of the attic, though, and he's been quite prolific over the past week.
In a Nov. 15 column, Kincaid complained that during a recent Republican debate, CBS' Scott Pelley "maneuvered two Republicans, Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich, into defending the Obama Administration on one of the most important and sensitive foreign policy issues—killing American citizens abroad." Why? Because leftists have criticized the policy, that that could have been used against him as a wedge issue. Instead, Kincaid laments, "An issue the Republicans could have used against Obama, in order to alienate the President from his left-wing political base and illustrate his power-hungry manner, was taken off the table."
The next day, Kincaid published a column explaining the previous one:
My column about Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney endorsing President Obama’s premeditated murder of an American citizen working for al-Qaeda was designed to make the point that the Republican candidates had fallen into a trap laid by Scott Pelley of CBS during last Saturday’s debate. Gingrich, who has made criticism of the media a hallmark of his resurgent campaign, should have sensed the trap. Instead, he fell into it, along with Romney.
One reader missed the point about the media and responded, “Despite all the harm this president has done, it is not wrong to support him when he is right.”
But Obama was wrong before he was “right.” He came into office opposed to the use of executive power in this manner. This is the point that Pelley ignored in his question to the Republicans but which should have been central to the discussion.
Again, Kincaid lamented: "Gingrich and Romney had the opportunity to put the Obama Administration on the defensive over a policy that its top officials opposed before Obama took office. They blew it. Obama has to be breathing a sigh of relief."
In a Nov. 17 column, Kincaid was upset that "President Obama is being portrayed as a 'peace through strength' Ronald Reagan Republican as he travels abroad" and that Obama's speeches on his Pacific tour were insufficiently hateful of China.
Perhaps it's time to send Kincaid back to the attic.
AIM's Irvine Misreads Video, Reads Minds Topic: Accuracy in Media
Did Don Irvine even watch the video he's attacking?
In a Sept. 5 Accuracy in Media post, Irvine writes of the "Fox News Sunday" interview between Chris Wallace and Dick Cheney, in which Wallace had shown a clip of Cheney on NBC's "Today" show in order to throw him a softball question about media bias:
Wallace had just shown Cheney a clip in which, after his interview with Matt Lauer of the Today Show, the camera zeroed in on a sign held by a protestor outside the studio that said to investigate Cheney. This was totally unnecessary and could have been avoided.
In fact, it's clear from the video that the NBC camera is zooming out of a crowd of people, during which time someone jumps in front of the camera with the sign.
Further, Irvine is mind-reading when he claims that the shot was "totally unnecessary and could have been avoided." How does he know the circumstances of that shot? He doesn't.
Inaccurate analysis and mind-reading hardly constitute "accuracy in media."
AIM's Kincaid Still Trying to Smear Leon Panetta Topic: Accuracy in Media
Cliff Kincaid complains in a Sept. 5 Accuracy in Media column that a Washington Post series on "Top Secret America" is hiding "the real secrets." But in the course of his attack, Kincaid makes it clear he's keeping his own secrets.
Kincaid dredges up an attack on Leon Panetta, claiming that he was involved with the "Marxist" Institute for Policy Studies." But as Media Matters detailed, Kincaid's previous attempts to sabotage Panetta's nomination as secretary of defense by portraying him as a secret communist failed spectacularly after Kincaid and his partner, foreigner Trevor Loudon, vastly overstated the significance of constitutent correspondence between Panetta, a congressman in the 1980s, and a resident of his district.
Meanwhile, Kincaid whines about the anthrax case, whining that "Post reporter Marilyn Thompson covered and wrote a book, The Killer Strain, on the anthrax case and unfairly pointed the finger at Dr. Steven Hatfill, who was labeled a 'person of interest' but never charged and was later officially exonerated, to the point where he collected $6 million in damages from the Department of Justice and the FBI for using the media to finger him."
But as Thompson herself pointed out when her book was released: "There is such a strong circumstantial trail surrounding Steven Hatfill that the FBI would have been completely lax not to pursue it vigorously. He remains the key "person of interest" in this case because of an inconclusive polygraph and the fact that FBI bloodhounds I.D.'ed him. But the circumstantial links are compelling and need to be conclusively nailed."
Kincaid went on to declare:
The anthrax case, which was prematurely closed by the FBI when another persecuted suspect killed himself rather than fight for his reputation, was the work of al-Qaeda operatives on U.S. soil, according to the most authoritative book on the subject, Anthrax and Al Qaeda: The Infiltration of US Biodefense. This evidence suggests that the real problem facing the “National Security State” is infiltration and penetration by enemies of the U.S. and not enough safeguards against the internal subversive threat.
As we've previously noted, Kincaid has previously come to the defense of Bruce Ivins, the suspect he curiously won't name here. He has yet to address the recent evidence presented against Ivins, particularly a book strongly implicating Ivins in the anthrax attacks.
AIM, Newsmax Bash MLK Monument For Chinese Ties Topic: Accuracy in Media
The news that the new Martin Luther King Jr. monument in Washington was created by a Chinese sculptor is tailor-made for right-wing freakouts, and the ConWeb has obliged.
Cliff Kincaid, of course, ranted about it in an Aug. 23 Accuracy in Media article declaring that the sculpture "was 'outsourced' to Lei Yixin, a Chinese government-approved sculptor best known for creating edifices glorifying Mao Tse-Tung, father of Communist China and notorious mass-murderer." Kincaid goes on to cite anonymous bloggers and foreign newspapers criticizing the choice. Kincaid also wrote that "Mao, in a 1968 official Chinese government pamphlet, declared that King had been 'assassinated by the U.S. imperialists' and that they had 'killed him in cold blood.'"
Meanwhile, the Washington Post has noted that a construction boom in China has given Lei ample opportunity to build his skills, and reported that Lei was the choice of Harry E. Johnson Sr., president of the foundation that built the monument, was "Lei's skill at capturing personalities in sculptures, his expertise in hewing granite and his extensive experience with large public monuments."
Kincaid followed up with a column rehashing clips from Washington Post columnists criticizing the monument as the paper plans to publish a special section about it.
Newsmax piled on as well in an Aug. 22 article by Jim Meyers, who similarly cited a foreign newspaper to attack Lei and claimed that the sculpture "shows King emerging from a mountain of Chinese granite with his arms crossed."
AIM's Kincaid: Newsweek Attacking Bachmann Because Barry Diller Is Gay Topic: Accuracy in Media
Cliff Kincaid has identified the real culprit in Newsweek's criticism of Michele Bachmann. From his Aug. 11 Accuracy in Media column:
What has been ignored in the controversy is the fact that Tina Brown’s Daily Beast website, which acquired Newsweek, is owned by billionaire Barry Diller, identified by Out magazine as one of the top 50 most powerful homosexuals in the U.S. The publication said that Diller, who is not “out” of the closet, has “a long list of high-powered boyfriends” and a reputation as “the godfather of the velvet mafia, which includes his close friends Calvin Klein and David Geffen.”
This helps explain why Newsweek is targeting Bachmann, a supporter of traditional morality.
AIM's Kincaid Offended That Bachmann Profiler Doesn't Hate Gays Enough Topic: Accuracy in Media
Cliff Kincaid used an Aug. 8 Accuracy in Media column to lash out at Republican activist Nicolle Wallace for writing a Washington Post op-ed claiming that Michele Bachmann is too conservative to be president. Kincaid complains that Wallace is "a notorious Sarah Palin-basher who objects to conservative social and economic views" and the Post 'should apologize for pretending that Nicolle Wallace is someone who should be taken seriously by Republicans."
Eventually, we get to Kincaid's real objection to Wallace: She doesn't hate gays as much as Kincaid does. He asserts that Wallace "is determined to undercut Bachmann’s successful campaign" because she, unlike Bachmann, is "a gay rights supporter." Kincaid continues:
Getting to the nub of the matter, Wallace later writes that Bachmann’s husband’s counseling practice “was found to have offered treatment to gay individuals that included prayer to ‘cure’ homosexuality” and that “Bachmann’s poll numbers rose steadily amid the media scrutiny of Marcus Bachmann’s professional offerings and outrage from across the political spectrum.”
Except for the reference to Bachmann continuing to enjoy rising support despite the “media scrutiny,” this is complete nonsense. The attack on Marcus Bachmann originated with a gay rights group that used a major media reporter, ABC’s Brian Ross, to attack the documented record of firms such as Bachmann’s in counseling individuals to reject homosexuality within a religious context. This approach is used for homosexual-oriented individuals seeking to change. And many have done so, as the thousands of ex-homosexuals attest.
It is a variation of the same spiritual approach used to help people reject drugs or alcohol.
Kincaid has also likened homosexuality to smoking, so his thinking that it's akin to drug and alcohol addition is unfortunately not surprising.
Kincaid also has no problem with a proposed law in Uganda that would permit the death penalty for homosexuality, so he's way out of the mainstream of rational thought on the issue.
AIM Runs to Murdoch's Defense Topic: Accuracy in Media
Accuracy in Media has issued a press release quoting Roger Aronoff telling us not to rush to judgment on Rupert Murdoch over the News of the World phone-hacking scandal:
“While clearly some of the practices of News Corp’s News of the World involving hacking into emails and cell phone messages were quite despicable, leading to the paper being shut down, it is premature to assume individual criminal liability, or that Rupert Murdoch media properties in this country engaged in similar practices,” Aronoff said. “We were reminded in the DSK case that the presumption of innocence still matters in this country, despite the charges.”
“The Left smells blood, and would love to see Fox News in particular somehow implicated and weakened by this scandal,” added Aronoff. “But it should be remembered that Murdoch has done much to counter the weight of the liberal influence in the mainstream media by allowing conservative voices a platform, which has helped shape the debate on many issues in this country, and for that he should be applauded. Beyond that, we should reserve judgment until the facts are known.”
Meanwhile, AIM has yet to apologize for its own rush to judgment in uncritically repeating attacks on Leon Panetta by discredited foreigner Trevor Loudon in an attempt to derail Panetta's nomination as secretary of defense. Not only have Loudon's attacks been discredited, they didn't work; the Senate unanimously approved Panetta's nomination.
AIM Wants You To Buy News Corp. Stock Topic: Accuracy in Media
Don Irvine uses a July 16 Accuracy in Media post to try to make lemonade of the lemon of the News of the World scandal, as well has offering some of the most ludicrous right-wing spin so far: Buy News Corp. stock!
The storm over the scandal that has enveloped Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp is probably far from over, but in the meantime it has created a possible window of opportunity to pick up stock in the company at a substantial discount.
Thanks to this week’s sell-off, the stock is now trading at a 40% discount compared to its peers, Walt Disney and Time Warner, which is double the typical gap seen since 2002.
Just how undervalued are News Corp shares at this time. Citing a valuation from Barclays Capital, the Times reports that the cable news networks and the movie studio are worth $42 billion, which is equivalent to the company’s entire market capitalization.
Even liberals should be able to recognize a deal when they see one, especially one that they helped create.
Yes, Irvine really thinks the scandal-driven devaluation of News Corp. stock is a good thing.
Anti-Gay AIM, WND Rush to Defend Bachmann's Anti-Gay Husband Topic: Accuracy in Media
ABC News' report on the "pray away the gay" counseling tactics used by Marcus Bachmann, husband of Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann, prompted a defense of Bachmann by some of the most anti-gay elements of the ConWeb.
At Accuracy in Media, Cliff Kincaid -- a gay-hater who has expressed his approval of a proposed law in Uganda that would permit the death penalty for mere homosexuality -- claimed in a July 12 column that ABC charged that "the Bachmann family counseling service engages in terrible things by teaching homosexuals how to leave their disease-ridden lifestyle," adding "Of course, the notion of the Bible condemning homosexual behavior, reflected in several passages, was viewed as bizarre and intolerant."
Kincaid dismissed the report at "largely recycled leftist material" and quoted at length fellow gay-hater Peter LaBarbera denouncing it. Kincaid even worked in claims by discredited foreigner Trevor Loudon, even though he did not comment directly on the ABC story.
Kincaid followed up the next day with a more direct attack on ABC reporter Brian Ross, who conducted the report, making the largely irrelevant claim that Ross "hosted a fundraising benefit" for the National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association. Kincaid further complained that Ross did not interview any "ex-gays" -- and even that anyone would put "ex-gay" in scare quotes, huffing, "The failure of Ross to interview any of the ex-gays can be explained by his subservience to the homosexual lobby, which dominates the media business."
At WorldNetDaily, Joseph Farah -- who leads WND's pervasive anti-gay agenda and portrayed criticism by one writer of that agenda as a paranoid fantasy that the writer wanted to kill him -- also ran to Bachmann's defense, using a July 14 column to inventively parsing the words of both Bachmanns to pretend that they aren't as anti-gay as they are:
No. 1: Did Michele Bachmann say, as has been repeated ad nauseam in reports by CNN and dozens of other news sources, that homosexuals are "part of Satan"?
No, she did not. Here is what she did say in context in a speech in 2004: "We need to have profound compassion for the people who are dealing with the very real issue of sexual dysfunction in their life, and sexual disorders. This is a very real issue. It's not funny, it's sad. Any of you who have members of your family that are in the lifestyle – we have a member of our family that is. This is not funny. It's a very sad life. It's part of Satan, I think, to say this is gay. It's anything but gay."
Now, I shouldn't have to explain the way the English language works to producers and editors at CNN and other major news agencies, but clearly that last inelegant statement does not say that individuals practicing homosexuality are "part of Satan." It suggests that it is satanic to suggest that the gay lifestyle is funny. There is no condemnation of individuals in her statement. Instead, the full context of her statement is urging compassion for people struggling with sexual dysfunction and sexual identity disorders.
No. 3: Did Marcus Bachmann call homosexuals "barbarians"?
No, he didn't. Again, in all of these deliberate misquotes and distortions, the actual words uttered by Michele and Marcus Bachmann reveal the truth.
Here's what he actually said in a radio interview about dealing with homosexuality: "I think you clearly say, 'What is the understanding of God's word on homosexuality?' We have to understand barbarians need to be educated. They need to be disciplined and just because someone feels it or thinks it doesn't mean we're supposed to go down that road."
What Marcus Bachmann is talking about here is confronting non-believers with their sin – a widely accepted Christian principle. He's not calling homosexuals "barbarians." "Barbarians" is a euphemism for non-believers. He's talking about the need for individuals and societies to stop just doing whatever feels right and paying attention to God's moral absolutes. In other words, he's being a Christian.
Farah is reading a lot into that final statement. Given the close juxtaposition of the two words, a layman's reading of Bachmann's statement makes it very clear that he is indeed calling homosexuals "barbarians." The "euphemism" Farah takes refuge in -- that "barbarians" and "unbelievers" is interchangeable -- is not a common one; we don't even recall WND using it at any point. (Plus, it makes the fallacious assumption that it is somehow impossible to be gay and Christian.) While Farah is willing to impart to Bachmann words he never said and meanings he never expressed, the rest of us have to go by what actually came out of his mouth.
Of course, inventing creative meanings of what people said is nothing new for Farah -- he won a Slantie Award this year for somehow divining that President Obama's omission of the word "creator" when paraphrasing the Declaration of Independence during a speech was "an attempt at deicide."
AIM-WND-Loudon Attack on Panetta Was Ignored; Now It's Discredited Topic: Accuracy in Media
We've previously detailed how Accuracy in Media's Cliff Kincaid teamed with foreigner Trevor Loudon, in an attempt to derail Leon Panetta's nomination as defense secretary, purportedly had a "close and personal relationship with a member of the Communist Party." WorldNetDaily's Aaron Klein also regurgitated the claims by the foreigner Loudon. We also pointed out that AIM's and WND's attacks were ignored, as evidenced by Panetta being unanimously confirmed by the Senate as defense secretary.
It turns out there was another reason the accusations by the foreigner Loudon and his American agents were so roundly ignored: they had no basis in reality.
Media Matters details how what Loudon and crew portrayed as a "close and personal relationship with a member of the Communist Party," Hugh DeLacy, was nothing more than a congressman responding to a constituent. Kincaid's claim that "Panetta promised DeLacy several apparently sensitive documents" is, again, nothing but typical constitutent correspondence.
Loudon, Kincaid, and Klein inflated the DeLacy-Panetta correspondence well beyond its significance -- thus falsely smearing Panetta. Don't expect any apologies, though; we're still waiting for Kincaid to admit that we were correct about the death penalty provisions in Uganda's proposed anti-gay legislation, or that he was wrong to defend Bruce Ivins, ultimately proven to have mailed several anthrax-laden letters shortly after 9/11 that killed several people.
AIM Joins The 'Dick' Conspiracy Topic: Accuracy in Media
A July 1 Accuracy in Media blog post by Roger Aronoff follows the Media Research Center in failing to condemn Mark Halperin for calling President Obama "kind of a dick" while simultaneously acknowledging that it was so offensive that he can't use the word uncensored, instead using "d***" and "the 'd' word."
Aronoff even goes on to literally repeat an MRC conspiracy, claiming that it Halperin "had instead called George W. Bush a fascist or a war criminal, no problem there at MSNBC, as Media Research Center has pointed out." But if Aronoff is so unbothered by Halperin's use of the word "dick," why won't he spell it out?
AIM/WND Smear Fails: Panetta Named Secretary of Defense Topic: Accuracy in Media
We've noted how Accuracy in Media's Cliff Kincaid has teamed up with foreigner Trevor Loudon to hurl claims that CIA director and secretary of defense nominee Leon Panetta had "close and personal relationship with a member of the Communist Party" and other purportedly insufficiently right-wing connections. WorldNetDaily's Aaron Klein also regurgitated the claims by the foreigner Loudon.
What did the Kincaid/Loudon/Klein combine's attempt to red-bait Panetta net them? Nothing. Panetta was unanimously confirmed as defense secretary.
It seems that such blatant red-baiting is unable to escape the echo chamber of the three men who were pushing it. Nobody cares what they have to say, not even politicians who might otherwise have been tempted to make hay with the accusations.
After years of Kincaid, Loudon and Klein being ignored. How will they handle it? Not well, we suspect.
AIM's Kincaid Thinks He's Bob Woodward (And Is Conspiring With Foreigners) Topic: Accuracy in Media
Accuracy in Media's Cliff Kincaid is trying to gin up outrage over a non-scandal -- the claim that CIA director and secretary of defense nominee Leon Panetta is somehow disqualifed for both jobs because he purportedly had "had a close and personal relationship with a member of the Communist Party by the name of Hugh DeLacy, whose record included meeting with communist espionage agents." He writes in a June 14 AIM article:
Rather than have boxes of material dumped on us, as happened in the case of Palin, we have researched hard-to-find Congressional hearings, conducted interviews and examined clippings from decades ago, university archives and the Congressional Record. It’s the kind of reporting that Bob Woodward of the Post was known for during Watergate.
Funny, we thought Woodward was best known in Watergate for meeting with a secret source in a parking garage. Is Kincaid doing that?
Not really -- he's just red-baiting. And he's doing something else as well -- he's collaborating with a foreign national to bring down an American official.
Kincaid states that he is working with "my friend and associate Trevor Loudon" to attack Panetta. Loudon, right-wing activist, is a resident and citizen of New Zealand who is obsessed with communism and has fed many of Aaron Klein's guilt-by-association attacks on President Obama and his advisers. (Klein is repeating this attack on Panetta as well, crediting Loudon but not Kincaid.)
Why is Kincaid conspiring with foreigners to attack Americans? Does he hate America that much?
Will AIM Still Deny Ivins Is Anthrax Killer? Topic: Accuracy in Media
Last weekend, the Los Angeles Times published an excerpt from a new book on the 2001 mailing of letters containing anthrax spores, which killed five people and disrputed mail service and governmental functions. The article and book, by David Willman, focuses in part on Bruce Ivins, who committed suicide in 2008 after investigators began focusing on him after first targeting Steven Hatfill -- to whom the government eventually paid millions of dollars in a legal settlement -- as the prime suspect.
Willman writes that the letters were mailed from a New Jersey mailbox located outside the offiices of a college sorority Ivins was obsessed with, that Ivins made a career as a civilian microbiologist for the Army despite a history of mental instability -- a psychiatrist confied that Ivins was the "scariest" patient he had ever known -- and that Ivins had created the batch of anthrax that matched the material in the letters and had unrestricted access to it.
But when the FBI announced in 2010 that Ivins was responsible for the anthrax attacks and that it was closing the investigation, Accuracy in Media was quick to run to Ivins' defense.
In a Feb. 26, 2010, AIM column, Cliff Kincaid complained that the FBI "conveniently blames a dead man, who committed suicide under FBI pressure, for the anthrax murders." Kincaid continued:
The FBI blames “the late Dr. Bruce Ivins” and claims that he “acted alone in planning and executing these attacks.” But the “evidence” is unconvincing and the case should still be considered unsolved. Ivins, like another suspect in the case, Dr. Stephen Hatfill, had been harassed and hounded by federal agents. The difference is that Hatfill stood up to the pressure and, with the help of Accuracy in Media, eventually collected a financial settlement from the federal government for the damage to his career and reputation.
Kincaid insisted that "The likely culprits ... were Al-Qaeda operatives who were part of a second wave of attacks on the U.S. homeland. But because the FBI went on a media-generated wild goose chase after Hatfill, precious time, leads and evidence were lost."
In a March 24, 2010, column, Kincaid asserted that "expert observers ... believe the FBI failed to seriously consider the role of foreign terrorist organizations and their sponsors in the anthrax mailings," adding, "Public confidence is already lacking because serious analysts do not think the FBI’s blaming of Ivins holds up under scrutiny."
Two days later, AIM published a column by Kenneth J. Dillon claiming that "There’s a gaping hole in the FBI’s argument that U.S. Government scientist Bruce Ivins was the anthrax mailer." Dillon blamed an "Islamic ideologue" who he claimed "special kind of access" to the anthrax, "the kind you get when you steal something." Ivins, meanwhile, was "capable, dedicated, patriotic, and psychologically vulnerable," Dillon wrote:
Ivins was a pianist at his church, taught children juggling, was married and the father of two adopted children, was involved in many research projects, was entrusted with the anthrax, and had developed a promising vaccine for anthrax. This is the profile of an active contributor to his community, hardly of a ruthless anthrax mailer. The FBI, however, has tried to use his various quirks and obsessions to make Ivins out to be an intrinsically evil person.
Dillon concluded by scoffing at FBI Director Robert Mueller's statement that that Ivins was guilty “beyond a reasonable doubt": "Given the weak evidence and the widespread skepticism among experts and the public, this is an extreme statement that lacks any credibility."
Will AIM revisit the anthrax case in the wake of this article and book and concede at last that Ivins is the culprit? You'd think that Kincaid, who now heads AIM's Center for Investigative Journalism, might have done some, you know, investigative journalism to get to the bottom of this.